Hi all.

Please, humor me and my persistent impending sense of doom - I live in a state where there is no legislation against 3D2A specifically, so things are legal per the ATF’s stance on PMFs. But what if that changes at state or maybe even federal level someday? Does that create legal exposure if we’ve bought parts from the usual Glock rail vendors, for example? Hard to argue those are for anything other than 2A manufacturing even if for personal use. Just thinking out loud about how to minimize risk.

Thanks.

  • The ShittinatorMA
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    If you really wanted to, you could avoid buying from guncad vendors… but if a government was that interested in PMFs so as to look at transaction and shipping histories for gun parts, they’d also look to see who’s buying a ton of PA6, PPA, M3x30mm bolts, etc.

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        The world’s most inefficient organization talking to the world’s most efficient organization.

        • notsuspekt
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          They’d spend the rest of our lives examining just the transactions from this year alone.

          Amazon would be a better target lol, they kept suggesting CF tubes, thread adapters, and jb weld combined for a while. I was like quit snitching you bitches.

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    Generally, things don’t become a crime retroactively. If the making wasn’t a crime at the time, new laws can’t change that.

    You may not be allowed to continue to possess things that you already made, but they aren’t going to come looking for you unless you do something to draw that attention. At that point whether you bought rails doesn’t matter. You’re either in possession of a prohibited firearm or you’re not.

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    2 months ago

    To ease your concerns, I work for a company that CNCs glock slides and automotive parts. We don’t mess with the lawmen at all. These parts are completely unrestricted and you are just a drop in the pond. If things changed, we’d go out of business. Feds can’t subpoena everybody who has ever bought gun parts from every vendor, it’s just too wide of a net to cast.

    Now don’t try to do this shit in somewhere like NYC, the USPIS cooperates with them.

    On that note, the ATF has reversed course on things like FRTs before, see Rare Breed Triggers and their attempt to confiscate triggers from customers. Know your rights, ask for a lawyer, and don’t talk to the police.

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    It would take massive legislation at the federal level to ban PMF or unserialized firearms. While most people think of the 60s as ancient history there are a lot of factory firearms out there made before GCA. Any new legislation would have to address this somehow.

    What is more likely is a state ban. What could go either way if of it banned me manufacturing or possession.

    Either way if what you’re doing now it’s legal there is no future threat for what is already done legally. You’d have to interpret any new legislation and act accordingly.

    It’s impossible for them to know about every transaction that ‘could be’ a firearm part.